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What if Charlemagne only had two heirs instead of three - how would the realm be divided?
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Rob
2018-01-23 00:49:52 UTC
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What if there was only a two part division, what would the two pieces be?
The Old Man
2018-01-23 10:42:31 UTC
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What if there was only a two part division, what would the two pieces be?
East and West, forget Lotharingia?

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John Braungart
Rob
2018-01-23 13:00:55 UTC
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What if there was only a two part division, what would the two pieces be?
East and West, forget Lotharingia?
Regards,
John Braungart
Does this mean Germany east of the Rhine and Italy in one set, and France, Burgundy, Rhineland and the Low Countries in the other?
The Old Man
2018-01-23 14:59:46 UTC
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What if there was only a two part division, what would the two pieces be?
East and West, forget Lotharingia?
Regards,
John Braungart
Does this mean Germany east of the Rhine and Italy in one set, and France, Burgundy, Rhineland and the Low Countries in the other?
I guess so, why not? Or Germany east of the Rhine and France west of it with the river itself and then due south from the river's source to the Mediterranean Sea as the border - or is that what you meant (no atlas handy)?

Regards,
John Braungart
Rich Rostrom
2018-01-28 04:09:54 UTC
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Germany east of the Rhine and France west of it with
the river itself and then due south from the river's
source to the Mediterranean Sea as the border...
The Rhine rises in SE Switzerland, NNE of Milan.
From there to the Med follows no geographical line.
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Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.
Pete Barrett
2018-01-24 18:02:56 UTC
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What if there was only a two part division, what would the two pieces be?
At war with each other?

Actually Charlemagne only had one surviving son, Louis the Pious - it was
Louis who had the three heirs. One of the notable things is that his
eldest son, Lothair, was given the Rhineland, Bavaria, Italy, and the
imperial title. The imperial title probably went with Italy, so which of
the two fragments in the ATL gets it?
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Pete BARRETT
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