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will socialist china invade hong kong
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Byker
2019-08-02 16:42:39 UTC
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Say the the Chinese is only able to nuke one American city. Which American
city would be willing to be sacrificed in the name of defending the South
China Sea or Taiwan? Would the one you are living in be OK, Byker?
Like in other wars, we'll let them make the first move.

Did the South have any idea of what was in store for them when they
bombarded Ft. Sumter?:


In 1898, most Americans couldn't have given a shit about Cuba. All that
changed when the battleship Maine blew up.

Before Pearl Harbor, the U.S. was isolationist. After Pearl Harbor, we
couldn't exterminate the Japanese fast enough.

Currently we're just waiting for Iran to fire on an American warship:




Once L.A., Seattle, or San Francisco has been nuked, China will cease to
exist for the remainder of the 21st Century, and you know it.

The PLA seems to have ignored Confucius, who said, "Too much causes loss of
all."

Interesting read:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-option

Let's pretend we're Herman Kahn and think about the unthinkable:
http://tinyurl.com/yx9syhvb

https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf
https://arretsurinfo.ch/any-war-with-china-will-be-a-nuclear-war/
https://carnegieendowment.org/files/ChineseNuclearThinking_Final.pdf
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-option

Taken from a (probably deliberately) leaked Chinese source: 20 American
cities most likely to be targeted by Chinese ICBMs:

New York City, New York
Los Angeles, California
Chicago, Illinois
Houston, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Phoenix, Arizona
San Antonio, Texas
San Diego, California
San Francisco, California
San Jose, California
Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas
Austin, Texas
Seattle, Washington
Columbus, Ohio
Charlotte, North Carolina
Detroit, Michigan
El Paso, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Jacksonville, Florida
Phoenix, Arizona

By striking these cities with single 3 MT warheads, they'd kill about 20
million Americans, some 6% of our population. They'd basically cripple the
United States economically if they targeted these cities. We'd definitely be
"down" but NOT "out".

Since the Chinese lack enough warheads to take out all our missile silos and
military bases, apparently they prefer to hold our population centers
hostage. Note the curious absence of Washington, D.C. Why spare the U.S.
capitol? They think they'll need to keep it for peace negotiations (!).

Since they would target our population centers, I'm assuming we'd target at
least twice as many of theirs (6% of China's population equates to 88
million). Of course we would contact Moscow to let them know that no
missiles are coming their way:

Beijing nuked: https://tinyurl.com/yagl99ww

And that's just ONE W88 warhead out of 8-12 carried by each Trident missile,
twenty of which are on every Ohio-class boomer:
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/trident/

Surprise! 260 million people live in just 15 Chinese cities

Shanghai (34 million)
Guangzhou (25 million)
Beijing (24.9 million)
Shenzhen (23.3 million)
Wuhan (19 million)
Chengdu (18.1 million)
Chongqing (17 million)
Tianjin (15.4 million)
Hangzhou (13.4 million)
Xian (12.9 million)
Changzhou (12.4 million)
Shantou (12 million)
Nanjing (11.7 million)
Jinan (11 million)
Harbin (10.5 million)

Then there are the rest of their densely-populated "urban centers":

Dongguan
Shenyang
Guangzhou
Wenzhou
Xiamen
Qingdao
Suzhou
Changsha
Zhengzhou
Shijiazhuang
Taiyuan
Wuxi
Zibo
Kunming
Hefei
Changchun
Dalian
Tangshan
Ningbo
Fuzhou
Taizhou
Urumqi
Guiyang
Nanning

Plus there are some 360+ military/industrial targets not necessarily in
populated areas...

Still feel like pulling the dragon's tail, Charlie Chan?
abelard
2019-08-02 20:07:57 UTC
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Post by Byker
Say the the Chinese is only able to nuke one American city. Which American
city would be willing to be sacrificed in the name of defending the South
China Sea or Taiwan? Would the one you are living in be OK, Byker?
Like in other wars, we'll let them make the first move.
Did the South have any idea of what was in store for them when they
bombarded Ft. Sumter?: http://youtu.be/I1IWVVgANq0
In 1898, most Americans couldn't have given a shit about Cuba. All that
changed when the battleship Maine blew up.
Before Pearl Harbor, the U.S. was isolationist. After Pearl Harbor, we
couldn't exterminate the Japanese fast enough.
http://youtu.be/YY3CFGWapM0
http://youtu.be/YrgGcwC2neA
http://youtu.be/GR2-luZpXGI
Once L.A., Seattle, or San Francisco has been nuked, China will cease to
exist for the remainder of the 21st Century, and you know it.
The PLA seems to have ignored Confucius, who said, "Too much causes loss of
all."
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-option
http://tinyurl.com/yx9syhvb
https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf
https://arretsurinfo.ch/any-war-with-china-will-be-a-nuclear-war/
https://carnegieendowment.org/files/ChineseNuclearThinking_Final.pdf
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-option
Taken from a (probably deliberately) leaked Chinese source: 20 American
New York City, New York
Los Angeles, California
Chicago, Illinois
Houston, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Phoenix, Arizona
San Antonio, Texas
San Diego, California
San Francisco, California
San Jose, California
Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas
Austin, Texas
Seattle, Washington
Columbus, Ohio
Charlotte, North Carolina
Detroit, Michigan
El Paso, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Jacksonville, Florida
Phoenix, Arizona
By striking these cities with single 3 MT warheads, they'd kill about 20
million Americans, some 6% of our population. They'd basically cripple the
United States economically if they targeted these cities. We'd definitely be
"down" but NOT "out".
Since the Chinese lack enough warheads to take out all our missile silos and
military bases, apparently they prefer to hold our population centers
hostage. Note the curious absence of Washington, D.C. Why spare the U.S.
capitol? They think they'll need to keep it for peace negotiations (!).
Since they would target our population centers, I'm assuming we'd target at
least twice as many of theirs (6% of China's population equates to 88
million). Of course we would contact Moscow to let them know that no
Beijing nuked: https://tinyurl.com/yagl99ww
And that's just ONE W88 warhead out of 8-12 carried by each Trident missile,
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/trident/
Surprise! 260 million people live in just 15 Chinese cities
Shanghai (34 million)
Guangzhou (25 million)
Beijing (24.9 million)
Shenzhen (23.3 million)
Wuhan (19 million)
Chengdu (18.1 million)
Chongqing (17 million)
Tianjin (15.4 million)
Hangzhou (13.4 million)
Xian (12.9 million)
Changzhou (12.4 million)
Shantou (12 million)
Nanjing (11.7 million)
Jinan (11 million)
Harbin (10.5 million)
Dongguan
Shenyang
Guangzhou
Wenzhou
Xiamen
Qingdao
Suzhou
Changsha
Zhengzhou
Shijiazhuang
Taiyuan
Wuxi
Zibo
Kunming
Hefei
Changchun
Dalian
Tangshan
Ningbo
Fuzhou
Taizhou
Urumqi
Guiyang
Nanning
Plus there are some 360+ military/industrial targets not necessarily in
populated areas...
Still feel like pulling the dragon's tail, Charlie Chan?
socialism has a deranged penchant for malthusianism...reduce
population
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Keema's Nan
2019-08-02 20:36:50 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Byker
Say the the Chinese is only able to nuke one American city. Which American
city would be willing to be sacrificed in the name of defending the South
China Sea or Taiwan? Would the one you are living in be OK, Byker?
Like in other wars, we'll let them make the first move.
Did the South have any idea of what was in store for them when they
bombarded Ft. Sumter?: http://youtu.be/I1IWVVgANq0
In 1898, most Americans couldn't have given a shit about Cuba. All that
changed when the battleship Maine blew up.
Before Pearl Harbor, the U.S. was isolationist. After Pearl Harbor, we
couldn't exterminate the Japanese fast enough.
http://youtu.be/YY3CFGWapM0
http://youtu.be/YrgGcwC2neA
http://youtu.be/GR2-luZpXGI
Once L.A., Seattle, or San Francisco has been nuked, China will cease to
exist for the remainder of the 21st Century, and you know it.
The PLA seems to have ignored Confucius, who said, "Too much causes loss of
all."
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-op
tion
http://tinyurl.com/yx9syhvb
https://fas.org/nuke/guide/china/Book2006.pdf
https://arretsurinfo.ch/any-war-with-china-will-be-a-nuclear-war/
https://carnegieendowment.org/files/ChineseNuclearThinking_Final.pdf
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2018-10-15/beijings-nuclear-op
tion
Taken from a (probably deliberately) leaked Chinese source: 20 American
New York City, New York
Los Angeles, California
Chicago, Illinois
Houston, Texas
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Phoenix, Arizona
San Antonio, Texas
San Diego, California
San Francisco, California
San Jose, California
Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas
Austin, Texas
Seattle, Washington
Columbus, Ohio
Charlotte, North Carolina
Detroit, Michigan
El Paso, Texas
Memphis, Tennessee
Jacksonville, Florida
Phoenix, Arizona
By striking these cities with single 3 MT warheads, they'd kill about 20
million Americans, some 6% of our population. They'd basically cripple the
United States economically if they targeted these cities. We'd definitely be
"down" but NOT "out".
Since the Chinese lack enough warheads to take out all our missile silos and
military bases, apparently they prefer to hold our population centers
hostage. Note the curious absence of Washington, D.C. Why spare the U.S.
capitol? They think they'll need to keep it for peace negotiations (!).
Since they would target our population centers, I'm assuming we'd target at
least twice as many of theirs (6% of China's population equates to 88
million). Of course we would contact Moscow to let them know that no
Beijing nuked: https://tinyurl.com/yagl99ww
And that's just ONE W88 warhead out of 8-12 carried by each Trident missile,
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/trident/
Surprise! 260 million people live in just 15 Chinese cities
Shanghai (34 million)
Guangzhou (25 million)
Beijing (24.9 million)
Shenzhen (23.3 million)
Wuhan (19 million)
Chengdu (18.1 million)
Chongqing (17 million)
Tianjin (15.4 million)
Hangzhou (13.4 million)
Xian (12.9 million)
Changzhou (12.4 million)
Shantou (12 million)
Nanjing (11.7 million)
Jinan (11 million)
Harbin (10.5 million)
Dongguan
Shenyang
Guangzhou
Wenzhou
Xiamen
Qingdao
Suzhou
Changsha
Zhengzhou
Shijiazhuang
Taiyuan
Wuxi
Zibo
Kunming
Hefei
Changchun
Dalian
Tangshan
Ningbo
Fuzhou
Taizhou
Urumqi
Guiyang
Nanning
Plus there are some 360+ military/industrial targets not necessarily in
populated areas...
Still feel like pulling the dragon's tail, Charlie Chan?
socialism has a deranged penchant for malthusianism...reduce
population
The nut jobs in the USA seem to have become obsessed with nuking millions of
people all of a sudden.

The land of the free, but only if everyone else is already dead.

Is this what the bible meant by The Last Trump?
Byker
2019-08-02 23:48:12 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
The nut jobs in the USA seem to have become obsessed with nuking millions
of people all of a sudden.
Sudden? The People's Republic of China has been in our nuclear crosshairs
since 1949, when Mao stepped up to the podium.

Read Daniel Ellsberg's "The Doomsday Machine" to learn how China would've
been smoked along with the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact countries had
the Cuban Missile Crisis gone badly:
https://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Machine-Confessions-Nuclear-Planner/dp/1608196704
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