Remember when Ronald Reagan wanted to make ketchup qualify as a school lunch vegetable? What a nitwit he was!

[i***@yahoo.com]

Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Yeah, sad, but true. Reagan wanted to go on the cheap with the
school lunch program, wanting to make ketchup qualify as a vegetable.
So kids could have a hamburger, 2 packs of ketchup and a carton of
milk and it would qualify as 'lunch'.

Yet another example of the averice and greed of that demented old
man. Yeah, cut down on how much it would cost the federal government
to supply the meals so he could spend more money on the evil hand of
conservative government - guns, bombs, etc. You know the deal. About
how President Bush is doing now. One only has to wonder who Ronald
Reagan's Halliburton was, and who was his "Uncle Dicky".

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

And I guess it was a case of water seeking its level, for Ronnie
Raygun fittingly ended up a babbling vegetable.

But it was all a conspiracy, anyway.

And, as Sean Hannity is wont to say - his ASSutude, a very apt term
for that little surfer boy wanna be Sean Hannity - "What would Ronald
Reagan do?". No too much...the bugs and worms got done with him a
longgggggggggggggg time ago!

Let the demonizations of that evil man Ronald Reagan continue.
Forever!

[MadTony]

Where exactly in the Constitution does it say the government is responsible
for feeding schoolchildren? My folks used to pack me a lunch every day. My
mom made breakfast every morning before school and supper every night.
Shouldn't feeding the kids be a parental responsibility, not a governmental
one?

[Dan Goodman]

Post by MadTony
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say the government is
responsible for feeding schoolchildren?

Same place it says local and state governments are responsible for
keeping streets and roads in good enough condition for cars and trucks.

I believe it's right after the Constitutional provision for providing
the President with a residence, and a White House chef.

[i***@yahoo.com]

Post by MadTony
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say the government is responsible
for feeding schoolchildren? My folks used to pack me a lunch every day. My
mom made breakfast every morning before school and supper every night.
Shouldn't feeding the kids be a parental responsibility, not a governmental
one?

Well, Tony, I guess you took lasagne to school too eh?

[Patriot Games]

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.

"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."
http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

[John]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Doesn't matter, that was minor compared to his treason which consisted of
making deals with and selling of arms to known terrorists:

Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to
provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling
arms to Iran. The Iran-contra affair was the product of two separate
initiatives during the administration of President Ronald Reagan. The first
was a commitment to aid the contras who were conducting a guerrilla war
against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. The second was to placate
"moderates" within the Iranian government in order to secure the release of
American hostages held by pro-Iranian groups in Lebanon and to influence
Iranian foreign policy in a pro-Western direction.

[i***@yahoo.com]

Post by John

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Doesn't matter, that was minor compared to his treason which consisted of
Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to
provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling
arms to Iran. The Iran-contra affair was the product of two separate
initiatives during the administration of President Ronald Reagan. The first
was a commitment to aid the contras who were conducting a guerrilla war
against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua.

Yes, and by doing so, Ronald Reagan broke the existing law...that
being - NO involvement in a sovereign nation. But illegalities didn't
stop Ronald Reagan after all. Blame it all on Bonzo - that chimp had
aluminum fillings, and when he bit Reagan that is when Ronald
contracted the Alzheimers......

Post by John
The second was to placate
"moderates" within the Iranian government in order to secure the release of
American hostages held by pro-Iranian groups in Lebanon and to influence
Iranian foreign policy in a pro-Western direction.

[l***@cs.com]

Post by John

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Doesn't matter, that was minor compared to his treason which consisted of
Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to
provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling
arms to Iran. The Iran-contra affair was the product of two separate
initiatives during the administration of President Ronald Reagan. The first
was a commitment to aid the contras who were conducting a guerrilla war
against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. The second was to placate
"moderates" within the Iranian government in order to secure the release of
American hostages held by pro-Iranian groups in Lebanon and to influence
Iranian foreign policy in a pro-Western direction.

In retrospect, Reagan was the neocons front guy who opened the door
for all of the other evils that have since afflicted the US.

He was an actor, after all.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by l***@cs.com
In retrospect, Reagan was the neocons front guy who opened the door
for all of the other evils that have since afflicted the US.

Absolutely. The only truly moral people in this country are
the faggots in San Fran, and cross-dressers and anarchists in Seattle.

Oh, I almost forgot - also all non-christians and non-NRA
members. Every citizen should be forced to join the ACLU and show
their membership card before voting. Preferably, they should also
show documentation that they have had a homosexual relationship of at
least one year, and are muslim and/or black.

Post by l***@cs.com
He was an actor, after all.

As opposed to who, Bill ' I didn't have sex with that woman,
she had sex with me' Clinton ?

[Patriot Games]

Post by l***@cs.com

Post by John

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Doesn't matter, that was minor compared to his treason which consisted of
Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to
provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling
arms to Iran. The Iran-contra affair was the product of two separate
initiatives during the administration of President Ronald Reagan. The first
was a commitment to aid the contras who were conducting a guerrilla war
against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. The second was to placate
"moderates" within the Iranian government in order to secure the release of
American hostages held by pro-Iranian groups in Lebanon and to influence
Iranian foreign policy in a pro-Western direction.

In retrospect, Reagan was the neocons front guy who opened the door
for all of the other evils that have since afflicted the US.

So now everything is Reagan's fault....

I wish you Dems would make up your mind...

[Tom Sr.]

.
Answer: Because Patriot Games is *both* a fruit and a vegetable!


-Tom Sr.

[AnAmericanCitizen]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

You misspelled Idol.

Actually ketchup is very healthy and can be considered a vegetable, particularly for
those that need five or six vegies a day. Processed tomatoes (i.e., ketchup, sauces,
etc.) have more food value than raw tomatoes.....AAC

(snip)

Post by Patriot Games
So now everything is Reagan's fault....
I wish you Dems would make up your mind...

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we
will be a nation gone under."....Ronald Reagan

[The Old Man]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by l***@cs.com

Post by John

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Doesn't matter, that was minor compared to his treason which consisted of
Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to
provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling
arms to Iran. The Iran-contra affair was the product of two separate
initiatives during the administration of President Ronald Reagan. The first
was a commitment to aid the contras who were conducting a guerrilla war
against the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. The second was to placate
"moderates" within the Iranian government in order to secure the release of
American hostages held by pro-Iranian groups in Lebanon and to influence
Iranian foreign policy in a pro-Western direction.

In retrospect, Reagan was the neocons front guy who opened the door
for all of the other evils that have since afflicted the US.

So now everything is Reagan's fault....
I wish you Dems would make up your mind...

Just like the NeoCons think that it's all Clinton's fault....
Especially since they were both of little consequence, but both were
also better than the drooling chimpanze (Bonzo?) that we're currently
stuck with......

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[Pudentame]

Post by The Old Man
Just like the NeoCons think that it's all Clinton's fault....
Especially since they were both of little consequence, but both were
also better than the drooling chimpanze (Bonzo?) that we're currently
stuck with......

That's a mortal insult to drooling chimpanzees everywhere!

[Patriot Games]

Post by Pudentame

Post by The Old Man
Just like the NeoCons think that it's all Clinton's fault....
Especially since they were both of little consequence, but both were
also better than the drooling chimpanze (Bonzo?) that we're currently
stuck with......

That's a mortal insult to drooling chimpanzees everywhere!

Its YOU who are insulting chimps!

They ONLY drool when shown a picture of Hitlary in leather, with strap-on.

[i***@yahoo.com]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

You are a liar!

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.

Since when was Ronald Reagan a yellow-dog Democrat?

Post by Patriot Games
"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

[Patriot Games]

Post by i***@yahoo.com

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

You are a liar!

See cite below, fool.

Post by i***@yahoo.com

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.

Since when was Ronald Reagan a yellow-dog Democrat?

YOU are a yellow-dog Democrat.

Post by i***@yahoo.com

Post by Patriot Games
"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

[Pudentame]

Post by i***@yahoo.com

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

You are a liar!

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.

Since when was Ronald Reagan a yellow-dog Democrat?

Actually, before he became a republican he was a new-deal Democrat.

[Agki]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.
"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

You say the Reagan administration didn't want to make ketchup (or is
it catsup?) a vegetable for the school lunch program and then you say
his Department of Agriculture made the proposal to count it as a
vegetable. What's the difference? At first, Reagan supported the
idea even though he didn't come up with it... or any other idea, for
that matter. He didn't get ideas.

Agki

[Pudentame]

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came
from his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by Pudentame

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came
from his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Somehow, I'm just a wee bit more concerned about issues like (
as is currently in the liberal Congress ) 'Forcing society ( including
employers, schools, etc ) to accept men who want to show up wearing
high heels, a dress, a woman's wig, and makeup, and proclaim
themselves 'women' and, as Congress is trying to do, making it illegal
to say 'That's not right, that's not acceptable'.

[i***@yahoo.com]

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Pudentame

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came
from his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Somehow, I'm just a wee bit more concerned about issues like (
as is currently in the liberal Congress ) 'Forcing society ( including
employers, schools, etc ) to accept men who want to show up wearing
high heels, a dress, a woman's wig, and makeup, and proclaim
themselves 'women' and, as Congress is trying to do, making it illegal
to say 'That's not right, that's not acceptable'.

Well, PJM, you white cracka nigga, your side LOST in the 2006
elections, and get ready for more of the same in the 2008 elections.

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com
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[Patriot Games]

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came from
his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Block. As in BlockHEAD.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Sat, 12 May 2007 19:09:53 GMT, "Patriot Games"

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came from
his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Block. As in BlockHEAD.

You're so clever ...

[Patriot Games]

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com
On Sat, 12 May 2007 19:09:53 GMT, "Patriot Games"

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came from
his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Block. As in BlockHEAD.

You're so clever ...

Oh, and you think ketchup = vegetable is what? Erudite!?

[itellitlikeitis]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com
On Sat, 12 May 2007 19:09:53 GMT, "Patriot Games"

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came from
his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Block. As in BlockHEAD.

You're so clever ...

Oh, and you think ketchup = vegetable is what? Erudite!?

I bet PJM just LOVES the way you massage his shoulders from behind.
As well as his mammaries.........

Gosh, you iconoclastic, conservatives get more gay by the moment.
gotta watch you gays......

[itellitlikeitis]

Post by Pudentame

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

In truth, Reagan was never paying that much attention. The idea came
from his secretary of Agriculture, John R. Block.

Well, you are quite true that Reagan was not paying to much mind,
because he was pretty mindless, i gotta agree. But he was all the
plan to make ketchup a school lunch vegetable.

gotta make you wonder if he had a hook to a ketchup company, just like
EWOC GWBush has his hook to his Uncle Dicky's Halliburton.

Dick Cheney...such a dick!

[r***@yahoo.com]

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?
Yeah, sad, but true. Reagan wanted to go on the cheap with the
school lunch program, wanting to make ketchup qualify as a vegetable.
So kids could have a hamburger, 2 packs of ketchup and a carton of
milk and it would qualify as 'lunch'.
Yet another example of the averice and greed of that demented old
man. Yeah, cut down on how much it would cost the federal government
to supply the meals so he could spend more money on the evil hand of
conservative government - guns, bombs, etc. You know the deal. About
how President Bush is doing now. One only has to wonder who Ronald
Reagan's Halliburton was, and who was his "Uncle Dicky".
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
And I guess it was a case of water seeking its level, for Ronnie
Raygun fittingly ended up a babbling vegetable.
But it was all a conspiracy, anyway.
And, as Sean Hannity is wont to say - his ASSutude, a very apt term
for that little surfer boy wanna be Sean Hannity - "What would Ronald
Reagan do?". No too much...the bugs and worms got done with him a
longgggggggggggggg time ago!
Let the demonizations of that evil man Ronald Reagan continue.
Forever!

I have a very consise and fitting response for you....

You're a dumbass and no matter what you think.....thats what you are.

[Pudentame]

Post by r***@yahoo.com
I have a very consise and fitting response for you....
You're a dumbass and no matter what you think.....thats what you are.

Well! I guess he told *you*. phppzzzzzzzt!

[Matt Giwer]

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:55:02 -0400, Matt Giwer

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Tomatoes, and Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy, too.

[Matt Giwer]

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com
On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:55:02 -0400, Matt Giwer

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Tomatoes, and Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy, too.

Just the tomato. I was just pointing out the idea was not as outlandish as it
seems on the surface. Also a serving is defined by quantity not by what it is.
Rest assured a couple packets of catsup would not count as a complete serving.
It would count for no more than its weight as part of a serving.

Surprising to some but you can have well balanced diet with pizza even with the
basic toppings which includes the fruity tomato sauce. Speaking of pizza you can
have bell peppers and several types of hot peppers and olives which, along with
the tomato sauce, also count as fruits.

So tell me do stuffed peppers count as a serving of fruit? Why not?

It had something to do with tariffs or end usage. Consider tomato jam, peanut
butter and tomato sandwiches and the old favorite tomato wine. Yes by definition
it is a fruit however almost all of its uses are as a vegetable. If there were a
separate culinary definition of foods it would be classified a vegetable.

Why is a strawberry classified as a fruit when it is the only fruit with the
seeds on the outside?

Other than a running joke at the time the issue is not as straight forward from
the nutritional side as one might think. There is a problem with serving fruit,
almost all the prepared ones have added sugar as are jams and jellies count.
Fresh ones are quite expensive unless in season locally and present inspection,
handling and storage problems.

And if the definition is strictly a fresh fruit as defined by science a fresh
bell pepper or jalapeño pepper satisfies the requirement as do figs if they are
in season but most people do not like them. There is no requirement that the
students eat the fruits they are served and there are clearly ways to assure
they will not if fresh peppers are the fruit.

[ZenIsWhen]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Post by Matt Giwer
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Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

What if you re-assemble it, though ?

[Steve Hix]

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

And mashed potato isn't a potato.

The tomato is a berry.

And ketchup (or catsup) has more sugar in it than does a similar amount
of ice cream.

[Matt Giwer]

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Are you refering to walnut ketchup or grape ketchup? Ketchup is a generic term
for a class of condiment that were popular in the US back when everyone made
their own and that was the generic name for it.

[Pudentame]

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar ...
tomatoes come in third place.

Ingredients listed in order by volume.

[Bert Hyman]

Post by Pudentame

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make
ketchup qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar ...
tomatoes come in third place.
Ingredients listed in order by volume.

Ingredients are listed in order by weight.

21CFR155.194 Catsup.

(a) Identity--(1) Definition. Catsup, ketchup, or catchup is the
food prepared from one or any combination of two or more of the
following optional tomato ingredients:
(i) Tomato concentrate as defined in Sec. 155.191(a)(1), except that
lemon juice, concentrated lemon juice, or safe and suitable organic
acids may be used in quantities no greater than necessary to adjust the
pH, and in compliance with Sec. 155.191(b).
(ii) The liquid derived from mature tomatoes of the red or reddish
varieties Lycopersicum esculentum P. Mill.
(iii) The liquid obtained from the residue from preparing such
tomatoes for canning, consisting of peelings and cores with or without
such tomatoes or pieces thereof.
(iv) The liquid obtained from the residue from partial extraction of
juice from such tomatoes.

...

(2) Ingredients. One or any combination of two or more of the
following safe and suitable ingredients in each of the following
categories is added to the tomato ingredients specified in paragraph
(a)(1) of this section:
(i) Vinegars.
(ii) Nutritive carbohydrate sweeteners. Such sweeteners if defined
in part 168 of this chapter shall be as defined therein.
(iii) Spices, flavoring, onions, or garlic.

[ZenIsWhen]

Post by Pudentame

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar ...
tomatoes come in third place.
Ingredients listed in order by volume.

I checked a bottle of Heinz before I posted this - the first ingredient
listed is tomato concentrate (paste, I assume).

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:27:16 GMT, "ZenIsWhen"

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Pudentame

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar ...
tomatoes come in third place.
Ingredients listed in order by volume.

I checked a bottle of Heinz before I posted this - the first ingredient
listed is tomato concentrate (paste, I assume).

I didn't know tomato's knew HOW to concentrate !

[Bert Hyman]

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Pudentame

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make
ketchup qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar
... tomatoes come in third place.
Ingredients listed in order by volume.

I checked a bottle of Heinz before I posted this - the first
ingredient listed is tomato concentrate (paste, I assume).

Ketchup is not significantly different from any other sort of
processed tomato sauce you'll find at your grocery store.

If tomato sauce or even tomato juice can be categorized as a
vegetable for dietary purposes, so can ketchup.

[.***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by Bert Hyman

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Pudentame

Post by ZenIsWhen

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make
ketchup qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid .... The main ingredient in ketchup is tomatoes.
Factoid, that does NOT make ketchup a tomato.

Except that the main ingredient in ketchup is water, then sugar
... tomatoes come in third place.
Ingredients listed in order by volume.

I checked a bottle of Heinz before I posted this - the first
ingredient listed is tomato concentrate (paste, I assume).

Ketchup is not significantly different from any other sort of
processed tomato sauce you'll find at your grocery store.
If tomato sauce or even tomato juice can be categorized as a
vegetable for dietary purposes, so can ketchup.

You mean I could have had a V-8 ?

[Bert Hyman]

Post by .***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Bert Hyman
If tomato sauce or even tomato juice can be categorized as a
vegetable for dietary purposes, so can ketchup.

You mean I could have had a V-8 ?

I imagine it would be a lot easier to drink a glass of V-8 than it
would be to choke down an equivalent quantity of ketchup.

[e***@yahoo.com]

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid, you stupid fucking moron - we're talking about ketchup, not
tomatoes.
Factoid, you stupid fucking moron - the fact that tomatoes are
culinarily a vegeteble does not mean that anything containing tomatoes
is thereby a vegetable, any more than it means that carrot cake -
containing the vegetable carrot - is a vegetable.

Got that, you stupid fucking moron?

[NY Teacher]

Post by e***@yahoo.com

Post by Matt Giwer

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

Factoid. The USDA has classified tomatoes as a vegetable for over a century.

Factoid, you stupid fucking moron - we're talking about ketchup, not
tomatoes.
Factoid, you stupid fucking moron - the fact that tomatoes are
culinarily a vegeteble does not mean that anything containing tomatoes
is thereby a vegetable, any more than it means that carrot cake -
containing the vegetable carrot - is a vegetable.
Got that, you stupid fucking moron?

I interpreted his posting as 1) a presentation of the stupidity of the USDA,
since the tomato is actually a berry and hence, a FRUIT, and 2) an
implication that since teh USDA got it wrong about the tomato beign a
vegetable, they could get it wrong again, about ketchup being a vegetable.

And, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[Agki]

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.
"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

You say the Reagan administration didn't want to make ketchup (or is
it catsup?) a vegetable for the school lunch program and then you say
his Department of Agriculture made the proposal to count it as a
vegetable. What's the difference? At first, Reagan supported the
idea even though he didn't come up with it... or any other idea, for
that matter. He didn't get ideas.

Agki

[Patriot Games]

Post by Agki

Post by Patriot Games

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Ronald Reagan, American Idiot. 'member when he wanted to make ketchup
qualify as a vegetable on school menus?

It didn't happen that way.

Post by i***@yahoo.com
Yeah, sad, but true.

No, its false. And another yellow-dog Democrat is destroyed publically for
LYING.
"Congress did not specify how the cuts would be achieved, so the Department
of Agriculture, scrambling for a palatable way of reducing the costs of the
food program by more than 25 percent, proposed a novel approach: pickle
relish and ketchup would count as the vegetable portion of the five required
school-lunch food items (meat, milk, bread, and two servings of fruits or
vegetables). So swift was the reaction to this "ketchup as vegetable" plan
that the Reagan administration quickly put the billion dollars back into the
program."http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3219311.html

You say the Reagan administration didn't want to make ketchup (or is
it catsup?) a vegetable for the school lunch program and then you say
his Department of Agriculture made the proposal to count it as a
vegetable. What's the difference?

The difference is you're a fool and I'm not.

[Pudentame]

Post by Patriot Games
The difference is you're a fool and I'm not.

Kind of stupid pointin' in the mirror while you talk trash like that.