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AHC: Mamluk Egypt not conquered by Ottomans
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Rob
2018-03-10 18:43:46 UTC
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The challenge is to have the Mamluk Egyptian state not be conquered by the Ottomans as it was in 1517, and indeed remain free of conquest by any outsiders until at least the year 1700.

One can nibble around the edges, but Egypt stays its own thing at a minimum.

In your response to the challenge for instance, the Mamluks might keep their entire empire in its 1500 boundaries, or they may lose non-Egyptian parts like Syria or Syria-Palestine.
Alex Milman
2018-03-16 17:04:02 UTC
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Post by Rob
The challenge is to have the Mamluk Egyptian state not be conquered by the Ottomans as it was in 1517, and indeed remain free of conquest by any outsiders until at least the year 1700.
The answer is quite simple:

"The Mamluk army was rather traditional, mainly consisting in cavalry using bows and arrows, whereas the Ottoman army, and especially the Janissaries, was quite modern, using arquebus. The Mamluks remained proud in their tradition and tended to disregard the usage of firearms."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Mamluk_War_(1516%E2%80%9317)#Background

Note that the Ottomans did not win an earlier war when technological difference was not that big.

Make Mamluk state to adopt the new weaponry and to develop a reasonably good infantry with the firearms and you have your scenario.

This, of course, implies existence of a strong authoritarian regime capable of dealing with the resulting unhappiness of the Mamluks.
Post by Rob
One can nibble around the edges, but Egypt stays its own thing at a minimum.
In your response to the challenge for instance, the Mamluks might keep their entire empire in its 1500 boundaries, or they may lose non-Egyptian parts like Syria or Syria-Palestine.
e***@gmail.com
2018-03-17 12:43:56 UTC
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Post by Rob
The challenge is to have the Mamluk Egyptian state not be conquered by the Ottomans as it was in 1517, and indeed remain free of conquest by any outsiders until at least the year 1700.
One can nibble around the edges, but Egypt stays its own thing at a minimum.
In your response to the challenge for instance, the Mamluks might keep their entire empire in its 1500 boundaries, or they may lose non-Egyptian parts like Syria or Syria-Palestine.
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