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Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
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Byker
2019-07-20 20:20:22 UTC
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Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way
crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for
instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to
overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you
think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and
broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could
have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was
needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
Oh? The Soviet collapse was a foregone conclusion from the get-go. It was
just a matter of when and how:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_the_dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
SolomonW
2019-07-21 02:15:13 UTC
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Post by Byker
Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way
crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for
instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to
overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you
think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and
broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could
have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was
needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
Oh? The Soviet collapse was a foregone conclusion from the get-go. It was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_the_dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
People have been predicting the certainity of a nuclear ww3, the end of oil
and global warming ever since I can remember.
Byker
2019-07-21 03:14:47 UTC
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Post by SolomonW
People have been predicting the certainity of a nuclear ww3, the end of
oil and global warming ever since I can remember.
Writing about such subjects is a cottage industry ;-)
pyotr filipivich
2019-07-21 05:18:22 UTC
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Post by SolomonW
Post by Byker
Do you think that WWII and the Soviet experience in it was in any way
crucial or vital to the Soviet Union's downfall several decades later?
In other words, in a scenario where WWII would have never occurred (for
instance, if Britain and France hold firm in 1938 and the SK are able to
overthrow Hitler and the Nazis before war actually breaks out), do you
think that the Soviet Union would have still eventually collapsed and
broken up? Or do you think that the Soviet collapse and break-up could
have been avoided in this scenario?
Even without losing 20+ milion people Russia had some woeful economic
problems to overcome and Stalin's methods wouldn't accomplish what was
needed.
Indeed but they were overcoming it, the Russian economy was doing okay
till the 1980s
Oh? The Soviet collapse was a foregone conclusion from the get-go. It was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_the_dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
People have been predicting the certainity of a nuclear ww3, the end of oil
and global warming ever since I can remember.
"The End Times, like the poor, will be with you always." Sister
Mary Francis
--
pyotr filipivich.
For Sale: Uncirculated Roman Drachmas, feature Julius Ceaser's Portrait,
several dated 44 BCE. Comes with Certificate of Authenticity.
Byker
2019-07-21 18:43:20 UTC
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"The End Times, like the poor, will be with you always." Sister Mary
Francis
Here's another Sword of Damocles that never fails to sell: Economic
collapse. You'll only get 64.7 million hits on Google:
https://tinyurl.com/y29gc9pg

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