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In November 1998, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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David Tenner
2018-05-28 02:43:21 UTC
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
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Robert Woodward
2018-05-28 04:57:07 UTC
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
First of all, who George Pataki will name as his replacement when he
dies in 2003? Howard Mills seems to be a bit short on experience (though
that didn't stop Pataki from supporting him in 2004).
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David Tenner
2018-05-30 17:20:55 UTC
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
First of all, who George Pataki will name as his replacement when he
dies in 2003? Howard Mills seems to be a bit short on experience (though
that didn't stop Pataki from supporting him in 2004).
Maybe Pataki even gambles that his post-9/11 popularity is such that he can
get away with appointing himself? Yes, I know that's almost always a
disaster (nobody has even tried it since Wendell Anderson) but, hey, it
worked for Happy Chandler!
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Robert Woodward
2018-05-31 05:09:57 UTC
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
First of all, who George Pataki will name as his replacement when he
dies in 2003? Howard Mills seems to be a bit short on experience (though
that didn't stop Pataki from supporting him in 2004).
Maybe Pataki even gambles that his post-9/11 popularity is such that he can
get away with appointing himself? Yes, I know that's almost always a
disaster (nobody has even tried it since Wendell Anderson) but, hey, it
worked for Happy Chandler!
What about Rudy Giuliani? It appears that his prostate cancer had been
successfully treated by 2003.
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a425couple
2018-05-29 21:44:27 UTC
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On 5/27/2018 7:43 PM, David Tenner wrote:
Re: In November 1998, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
But the Democrats put their Party as more important
than truth or justice with POTUS Clinton's perjury.
In late August 1998, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan stated publicly
that Slick Willy should consider resigning. This was followed by
somber speeches (which proved to be empty rhetoric) on the floor of
the U.S. Senate by Joseph Lieberman and Robert Byrd.

Moynihan and his fellow Democratic senators lacked the resolve to
expel Slick Willy. Moreover, Moynihan personally introduced, at his
farm in New York, the carpetbagger Hillary as his chosen successor.
He also supported Bill Bradley in 2000 and stated that Al Gore was
"not electable." Moynihan, more than any other Democrat, has helped
to secure the enduring legacy of Slick Willy and Hillary, which
consists of first W and now Trump in the White House.
Rich Rostrom
2018-05-31 01:15:19 UTC
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...announces that he will seek a fifth term in 2000.
Then Hillary Clinton has to find somewhere else to carpetbag,

There were four other states with open seats in 2000:
Florida, Nebraska, Nevada, and New Jersey (where the
Democrat stood any kind of chance).

I don't see her displacing the local Democrat
in Florida or Nebraska (and they both won).

FL - state Insurance Commissioner Bill Nelson
NE - Governor Ben Nelson

Nevada is possible: the Democrats ran a rather odd
candidate: a trial lawyer and talk-show host, Ed
Bernstein, who lost badly. Clinton might have a chance.

In New Jersey, the OTL Democrat was Goldman Sachs
executive Jon Corzine; could he be jawboned into
standing aside? (He won OTL.)

There were also several states where OTL the Democrat
beat a vulnerable Republican incumbent: Delaware, Michigan,
Minnesota, Missouri, Washington.

The Democrat challengers were

DE - Governor Mike Carper

MI - Representative Debbie Stabenow

MN - former state auditor and department store heir Mark Dayton

MO - Governor Mel Carnahan

WA - former Representative Maria Cantwell

Clinton might try for Minnesota or Washington; neither
Dayton or Cantwell looks like a dominant figure. But
would she have the nerve? Challenging a specific
incumbent is a different sort of maneuver from chasing
an open seat - more personal.

Of course this invites the question: would Clinton
win, running in a different state? If Clinton runs
and loses, ISTM that's the end of the Clinton show.

Or... Clinton could wait until 2002. However - if
she thinks Gore will win in 2000, then 2002 will be
an off-year election which usually goes against the
incumbent President's party, and she may not want to
jump into that. Plus there are no vacancies (until
Torricelli dropped out in NJ, and I don't think Clinton
could get away with replacing him).
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