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Could a bad natural disaster (earthquake on scale of Sicily 1903) keep Italy out of WW2?
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Rob
2017-06-08 01:02:51 UTC
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What do we think?

If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?

I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
SolomonW
2017-06-11 00:55:15 UTC
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What do we think?
If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?
I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
If Italy stays out of the war for a short time, France falls, there is
nothing for Italy to gain there and probably like Franco Italy sits the war
out as a moderate German ally.


It does change a lot about the war eg no North African campaign, no
Albainia etc
Insane Ranter
2017-06-11 21:16:42 UTC
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What do we think?
If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?
I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
If Italy stays out of the war for a short time, France falls, there is
nothing for Italy to gain there and probably like Franco Italy sits the war
out as a moderate German ally.
It does change a lot about the war eg no North African campaign, no
Albainia etc
This isn't really enough for Germany to get to Moscow is it? No being tied up in the Balkins and dealing with Italy's mess.

For some reason I don't think it is.
SolomonW
2017-06-12 00:51:13 UTC
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What do we think?
If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?
I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
If Italy stays out of the war for a short time, France falls, there is
nothing for Italy to gain there and probably like Franco Italy sits the war
out as a moderate German ally.
It does change a lot about the war eg no North African campaign, no
Albainia etc
This isn't really enough for Germany to get to Moscow is it? No being tied up in the Balkins and dealing with Italy's mess.
For some reason I don't think it is.
I would not think so either.
Rob
2017-06-14 02:14:38 UTC
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Post by Rob
What do we think?
If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?
I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
If Italy stays out of the war for a short time, France falls, there is
nothing for Italy to gain there and probably like Franco Italy sits the war
out as a moderate German ally.
It does change a lot about the war eg no North African campaign, no
Albainia etc
Does Mussolini start a private war, for its own glory alone, against Greece or Yugoslavia, at some point in the 1940s? If so, would Britain stay neutral in that?
SolomonW
2017-06-14 12:10:46 UTC
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What do we think?
If an earthquake or volcanic eruption inflicted damage on the scale of the 1903 Sicily earthquake hit Italy in April or May 1940, could this preoccupy Mussolini and keep him from joining WWII, at least at that time?
I ask this because an earthquake has been brought up before as a deus ex machina to keep Italy out of WWI. Some fairly knowledgeable posters thought it could do the trick. Could a natural disaster serve as a similar device to keep Italy out of WWII ?
If Italy stays out of the war for a short time, France falls, there is
nothing for Italy to gain there and probably like Franco Italy sits the war
out as a moderate German ally.
It does change a lot about the war eg no North African campaign, no
Albainia etc
Does Mussolini start a private war, for its own glory alone, against Greece or Yugoslavia, at some point in the 1940s? If so, would Britain stay neutral in that?
Why would he? If he is neutral he could potentially anger both Hitler and
the British.

s***@yahoo.com
2017-06-11 18:01:38 UTC
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Howzabout Rommel tasked to take St. Petersburg

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