Post by SolomonW
What we have seen that the Catalonian referendum that has causes much
violence, including unbelievably fireman and riot police fighting.
Now in Australia, such a referendum was held many years ago in the state of
Western Australia which wanted to secede from the Australian Federation.
The referendum was allowed, but the vote declared invalid as the courts
ruled that majority of Australians had to vote in favour to decide this
Now my question is in your country would the referendum be allowed. If
declared illegal would force be used to stop it?
On a personal note, I think that the citizens should have the right to vote
in such a referendum, whether the courts rule it valid is another question?
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Well, as of right now, there is more than one country/region/<whatever> which declared independence that is not recognized by its former government and the UN but recognized by SOME foreign government(s).
Kosovo - a precedent of the unilateral declaration of independence which is recognized by a number of countries but, IIRC, not by the UN. To quote Wiki, "There is an estimation that a group of between 70 and 200 unrecognized nations and organizations use the Kosovo precedent to achieve their goals."
As far as I can tell, the only comprehensive criteria of legality is "if it is recognized by the US"; if it is not, it is clearly, obviously and unquestionably illegal. Of course, there is a different, and absolutely incorrect point of view which formulates this criteria as "if it is recognized by Russia". I suspect that there is a broader definition: "if it can get away with it, preferably by having strong foreign power(s) supporting you". :-)
Abkhazia and South Ossetia used Kosovo as a precedent but by the reason listed above they are illegal and so are 2 separatist regions in Ukraine. Republic of Crimea also cited Kosovo as a precedent in their declaration of <whatever> but, by the obvious reasons, it is quite illegal (but they seemingly don't care).
So we have to wait until State Department will tell us if Catalonian referendum legal or not.