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AHC: U.S. has a war with Spain, helps Mexico become independent, and gets near OTL SW border
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Rob
2017-09-30 18:15:34 UTC
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Here's the challenge - Have the US acquire most of its OTL southwest (you can shave some off, as long as they have Alta California, Nuevo Mexico and Tejas) by direct conquest from Spain, not any Mexican state. Also, have US be an ally of rebels fighting for Mexican independence, and have the post-Spanish, independent Mexico consent (even if grudgingly) to US ownership of those old northern provinces of New Spain. Bonus points if the United States, especially its military forces, contributes a lot to Mexico achieving independence from Spain.
Rich Rostrom
2017-10-01 01:25:40 UTC
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Here's the challenge - Have the US acquire most of
its OTL southwest (you can shave some off, as long
as they have Alta California, Nuevo Mexico and
Tejas) by direct conquest from Spain, not any
Mexican state. Also, have US be an ally of rebels
fighting for Mexican independence, and have the
post-Spanish, independent Mexico consent (even if
grudgingly) to US ownership of those old northern
provinces of New Spain. Bonus points if the United
States, especially its military forces, contributes
a lot to Mexico achieving independence from Spain.
Napoleon catches a bullet at Arcola. The French Wars
die down, leaving Spain in uncontested control of its
New World colonies.

In the First-Spanish American War (1818-1821), the US
takes Louisiana and Florida from Spain. The war was
triggered in part by American settlers rebelling
against Spanish rule.

In the 1830s, rebellions break out in several areas
of Spanish America, with US sympathy and tacit US
support. Spain suppresses these rebellions, or holds
them to guerrilla insurrection. California and New
Mexico become largely ungovernable. The Spanish
encourage Indian attacks on the restive settlers in
New Mexico.

In 1849, American settlers and Tejanos join in a
rebellion against Spanish control of Texas. The US
recognizes the rebel government and admits Texas as
a state. Spain declares war on the US.

The US responds by defeating the Spanish Navy in the
Gulf of Mexico, though Spain succeeds in several
destructive raids on the east coast.

US armies then march from Texas into Mexico, welcomed
as liberators. US/Mexican rebel forces defeat the
Spanish army at Queretaro and Puebla. Other US forces
march through New Mexico, where they are welcomed as
liberators, and as protectors from the Indians; and
into California, where US settlers and Calfornios have
broken into rebellion.

The war ends in 1851; Spain grants independence to
Mexico, and cedes to the US everything north of the
Rio Grande and 30N latitude, or west of the Gulf of
California.
--
Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.
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